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L-185B ORION P-3B-95-LO*
L-185B ORION P-3B-100-LO*
L-185B ORION P-3B-105-LO
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* A Note on P-3B Block NumbersBlock Numbers were generally issued only to aircraft built specifically for the U.S. Navy. However, RAAF document AAP 7215.001-2-1 dated 1983 states that A9-291 to A9-297 inclusive were Block 95 aircraft and A9-298 to A9-300 inclusive were Block 100 aircraft. This document also confirms all of the MSNs and Bu Nos listed in the above tables. It is understood that these Block numbers attach to the RAAF Orions as they were on the production line at the same time as Block 95 & 100 aircraft were being assembled for the USN. Lockheed and the USN discontinued the use of Block Numbers on P-3Cs after 200 because they were not sufficiently specific to represent configuration accurately enough for maintenance, so the USN went to more precise configuration listings of specific aircraft and mods. Nevertheless, Block Numbers higher than 200 were used by several customers, including the RAAF P-3Cs, and indeed there is photographic proof of their use on USN aircraft. It is believed that these Block Numbers were contrived locally for continuity purposes. |
NOTES P-3B |
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Australian ATC records show four of the Portuguese aircraft (A9-293, 294, 297 & 298) departed Edinburgh for Cocos Island, Seychelles, Cairo and Beja. However, there is an anomaly in that the ATC records also show A9-295 going to Burbank and A9-605 going to Portugal but it was actually vice versa. A9-295 was delivered to Portugal and A9-605 went to Burbank for conversion to AEW&C configuration. Australian ATC records show N4007Z for A9-295 and not N4007A but this is almost certainly a typographical error as N4007Z was allocated to a PA-18. A9-292 went to Burbank for conversion by Lockheed to the prototype P-3P. All other P-3Bs sold to Portugal were delivered directly to Portugal for conversion to P-3P by OGMA at Alverca AB. A9-294 and A9-298 were used as trainers prior to conversion. Earlier reports that A9-295 was sighted at Burbank in October 1987 as N4007A are now believed to relate to another aircraft as N4007A was one of several Lockheed "trade plate" registrations used on multiple aircraft. Furthermore, the Lockheed pilot, Vic Ehlers, who ferried A9-295 out of Edinburgh, confirms that he flew the aeroplane to Beja, Portugal. |
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C/N
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BuNo
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RAAF
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FAA#1
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DEP
(E)
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TO
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ARR
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ARR
(M)
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FAA#2
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PoAF#1
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PoAF#2
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REMARKS
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5401
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155291 |
A9-291
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-
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01MAY85
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NZWP
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03MAY85
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-
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-
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-
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-
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To NZ4206 |
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5402
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155292
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A9-292
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N4003G(#2)
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24JAN86
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KBUR
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26JAN86
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07AUG88
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N4003X
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4801
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14801
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Note 1 |
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5403
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155293
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A9-293
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N4008B
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13NOV85
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LPBJ
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19NOV85
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12OCT87
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N4006S
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4802
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14802
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- |
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5404
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155294
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A9-294
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N4008R
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13NOV85
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LPBJ
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19NOV85
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20OCT86
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N4005X
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4803
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14803
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Note 2 |
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5405
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155295
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A9-295
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N4007A
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10DEC85
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LPBJ
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16DEC85
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-
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N4003G(#3)
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4804
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14804
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Note 3 |
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5407
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155297
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A9-297
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N4003G(#1)
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14OCT85
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LPBJ
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21OCT85
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12OCT87
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N4008B
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4805
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14805
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- |
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5408
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155298
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A9-298
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N40035(#1)
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14OCT85
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LPBJ
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21OCT85
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22OCT86
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N64854
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4806
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14806
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Note 2 |
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5409
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155299 |
A9-299
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N91LC
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22JUL83
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KBUR
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27JUL83
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-
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-
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-
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-
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AEW&C |
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5286
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154605 |
A9-605
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N40035(#2)
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10DEC85
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KBUR
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?
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-
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N96LW
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-
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-
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AEW&C |
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The
above table was compiled with the assistance of
Marco Borst of the Orion Research Group, former Lockheed pilot Vic Ehlers and Lockheed NavCom Jack Schroeder. |
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SOURCES
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National Archives of Australia, RAAF Unit History sheets (Form A50) [Operations Record Book - Forms A50 and A51] Number 11 Squadron Jul 67 - Jan 88, Series number A9186 |
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2
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Aircraft Magazine, July 1968, page 40. |
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NOTES
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Dates
shown in red are derived
from the log book of Vic Ehlers
who ferried A9-295, A9-297 and A9-299 out of Australia. |
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| FAA#1 | Registration allocated for ferry flight. Jack Schroeder, NavCom on the ferry flight of A9-292, confirms that the flight plan for this flight was filed under the FAA registration shown. Note that these Lockheed "trade plate" registrations were used on multiple aircraft. |
| FAA#2 | Registration allocated for crew training and/or test flying in Portugal. |
| DEP (E) | Departure from RAAF Edinburgh, South Australia |
| KBUR | Burbank, California, USA |
| LPBJ | Beja, Portugal |
| NZWP | Whenuapai, New Zealand |
| ARR (M) | Arrival at Montijo Air Base, Portugal |
| PoAF#1 | Initial Portuguese Air Force serial |
| PoAF#2 | Revised Portuguese Air Force serial |
| Note 1 | P-3P prototype. Delivered to PoAF ex Lockheed 07AUG88. Other P-3P conversions were performed by OGMA at Alverca AB from 1987 to 1989. Aircraft were initially stored at Beja and later ferried to OGMA at Alverca AB via Montijo AB as required for P-3P conversion. A9-295 was delivered directly from Beja to OGMA at Alverca AB. |
| Note 2 | A9-294 & A9-298 were delivered to Montijo AB in OCT86 for training aircrew prior to P-3P conversion. |
| Note 3 | Stored at Beja for a year or more then delivered directly to OGMA at Alverca AB for P-3P conversion. |
| Issue | Date | Remarks |
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| 19 | 19APR24 |
The
former A9-299 has been retired to the Pima Air and
Space Museum at Tucson, Arizona.
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| 18 | 29DEC22 | |
| 17 | 20JAN22 |
NZ4206
(formerly A9-291) positioned to Woodbourne on this
date to be retired and parted out.
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| 16 | 15FEB19 |
Added
an image of the wings
from A9-300 being fitted to a US Navy P-3C. Thanks
to Joe Hattley.
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| 15 | 11DEC18 |
Links
to Orion images have been removed from this page.
For images please visit the Orion
Gallery.
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| 14 | 16AUG18 |
Added
dates of arrival at Edinburgh for A9-298 and A9-299.
Thanks to Mel Davis and Nigel Daw (Source: 2). These
dates were not recorded in the ORB (Source: 1)
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| 13 | 16MAR18 | |
| 12 | 05MAR18 |
Updated
the status of the Portuguese Air Force aircraft
thanks to the P-3 Orion Research Group.
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| 11 | 26FEB18 |
Bu
No 152760 has been moved to the TAP-3B page as it
was acquired as a spares source to support the TAP-3B
trainer/transports.
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| 10 | 13AUG16 |
Updated
and corrected the reference to the wings from A9-300
being used in the rebuild of a USN Orion. Thanks
to Ray Seppala.
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| 9 | 09SEP15 | |
| 8 | 07SEP15 |
Tables
completely reformatted. Nil change to data.
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| 7 | 18JUN08 |
Added
two recent (OCT07) images of 152760 thanks to Richard
Siudak.
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| 6 | 06JUN08 |
Added
a report from the ADF Serials website that BuNo
152760
and A9-300
have been broken up for scrap.
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| 5 | 12MAR06 |
Added
a reference to the later use of the wings from the
fire damaged A9-300. Thanks to Dana Epping.
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| 4 | 07JAN06 |
Attempted
to further clarify the complicated matter of Block
Numbers.
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| 3 | 26NOV05 |
Commencing
in 2006, the RNZAF Orions will be upgraded, after
which they will be known as P-3K2. See A9-291.
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| 2 | 10NOV05 |
Previously,
A9-291 to A9-300 inclusive were shown as Block 95
aircraft. RAAF document AAP 7215.001-2-1 dated 1983
states that the last three aircraft, A9-298 to A9-300
inclusive, were Block 100 aircraft. Thanks to Marco
Borst of the Orion Research Group for supplying
this document.
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| 1 | 11OCT05 |
Previously,
all Orions were presented on the one page. Effective
from this date, there are separate pages for each
type, P-3B, TAP-3B and P-3C. If required, the previous
summary of updates can be viewed here.
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